Perussuomalaiset (PS)* Chairman and Foreign Minister Timo Soini wrote in his blog today that he was elated that the xenophobic Danish People’s Party emerged in the Danish elections as the second-biggest party after the Social Democrats.
Soini is happy about the DPP victory? Certainly he is because he likes their xenophobic and nativist nationalistic message because it’s the same message of the PS when the DPP was starting out in Denmark.
And he continues: “I sent to my good friend Morten Messerschmidt my warmest regards. Morten is coming again to our annual congress where he’s a liked guest.”
DPP MEP Messerschmidt was charged in 2007 for singing Nazi marching songs and giving the Hitler salute in a bar in Tivoli, the major tourist attraction in central Copenhagen.
He was cleared of such charges in 2009 by a court, which forced the daily BT to compensate Messerschmidt for libel. Together with two other DPP members in 2001, Messerschmidt was sentenced by a court for 14 days for ethnic agitation. A DPP ad in Studiomagazinet claimed that Denmark would face mass rapes, violence, insecurity, forced marriages, women would be oppressed, and gang crime if the country became a multiethnic society.
Politiken is one of Denmark’s biggest dailies. A tweet below lists some of the xenophobic stands of the DPP below. Is this the type of country Soini wants for Finland?
Migrant Tales has maintained for a long time that the PS and DPP are close ideologically and politically.
Both parties are members of the European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) group or the European Parliament.
* The Finnish name of the Finns Party is the Perussuomalaiset (PS). The English-language names adopted by the PS, like True Finns or Finns Party, promote in our opinion nativist nationalism and xenophobia. We therefore prefer to use the Finnish name of the party on our postings.
You people at Migrant Tales just don’t get it…. You think/feel that your opinions are the only ones worthy of discourse… and have some high ground in this discussion…. What you do not/not and probably never will realize is…. that the various “xenophobic, anti-immigrant, racist” political parties grew out of a bunch of local ‘hillbillies’ around a campfire hunting moose and quaffing beer….. These political parties sprang up because of your leftist overreach…. you’ve gone too far against the sensibilities of the general public in our sterile little northlands… The question remains….. why come here if we (Finns in this case) are so unfriendly….?? You’ll never answer that will you???…. You come from countries that have a curious take on the democratic process and upon arrival here, on some moral crusade because your skin is of a different hue….and you speak Finnish with an accent (if you speak it at all….). So, if a Finn doesn’t genuflect upon meeting your self-ascribed holiness…. we are labelled xenophobic…. You ran/migrated from your own situations from countries with little or no democratic process …. to land on our sacred shores and preach to us about our being less than perfect ….. get a grip you arrogant bastards…..
Matti
I will say it once and don’t need to repeat to risk redundancy, but I think you either forgot you medication today, or worse took the wrong medication! In case of the latter scenario speak to your doctor at once to change the prescription. Or maybe the drinks ran out sooner than you planned? Whatever…………
Obviously you have nothing better in your arsenal of debate weaponry … so you wish to speculate, for the benefit of your cheerleaders, that I ingest mind-altering agents…. Not going work Medusa, whoever you are, not going to work… put the argument out there and if I find it’s full of ‘paskaa’ … I’ll take you to the wall in the debate…. but like the long since-gelded horse, you’ll run up to the corral that houses the mares…. and totally forget why you’re even there.
MattiR2106> why come here if we (Finns in this case) are so unfriendly….??
Well to answer your question, the world belongs to all peaople. People came to Finland just like some Finns find opportunity to travel to different parts of the world for better opportunitys and lives!! I have to remind you that Finns travel alot to different parts of the world and reside EVERYWHERE!!…but lets play a thought experiment….what if every country where Finns reside starts formind a political groups that targets only those Finns that resides in that country and accuse them of being subhuman, lazy and tells them to go back to their country wich is Finland even though these Finns have been living decades in the country and have children with the locals. Now Matti, i want you to answer me this question,,,would yuou like this to happen to the |Finns that live in Africa, America and Australia…question mark!!…….dont forget that Finns are everywhere!! and it\s amusing that some Finns are acting like they have the right to travel to everywhere but it\s a big deal when someone of dark skin moves to their country. Sounds to me hypocritical.
Matti, Also, you can regulate the foreigners that come to your country without turning to a nazi Lol
Matti, im not accusing you to be a nazi, but the way things been going on lately, it seems as though nazi spirits are coming out of their graves. People are concerned Matti because in the history we have seen what nazis have done to people.
Well, that’s your world view…. you feel that all countries should be open to anyone who wishes to enter…. If that’s so, why do you not/not go to Russia, China, or even modern day Japan…. I hear that the immigration offices (abroad) of these countries have no/no lineups …. and you can apply with no/no waiting period…. Finland nor any other country belongs to all…. read your history… The Russians tried some ‘tourism’ in 1939…. they even brought a brass band along with them…. Finns do go abroad, and have been much appreciated wherever they’ve settled because of their hard work and ethics…. and they learn the ways of the host country and settle in for the long haul…. that’s hardly the case in refugee shopping that so many practise …. who gives away the most ‘goodies’ to the arriving unfortunates…. Why on earth would anyone come from the poorest parts of the world to Finland….. when so many other more amiable and welcome places exist…. answer that please??….
D4R…. as for not accusing me of being a NAZI… that is good thinking on your part…. I wonder if you even know the history of Nazism…?? Yet, the birthplace of that said horror is now much more friendly towards all sorts of people…. even ones who now openly wish to destroy them… When I lived in Turkey…. and didn’t know much Turkish (as I didn’t in the beginning)…. you could go to almost any village in the middle of nowhere and find someone who had been a guest worker in Germany … hence German became a good medium of communication…. As for NAZI spirits coming out of graves….. not so…. Actually, there is quite a vestige of said movement alive and well within the confines of South America…. and has assimilated into the local scenery, gained access to various levels of power….. yet it remains a curious oddity that some people on this website continue to yowl about Finland’s democratic process and conveniently forgetting whence they cometh themselves…. Indeed, watch whom you even ‘wish’ to label a NAZI…..
MattiR2106> Yet, the birthplace of that said horror is now much more friendly towards all sorts of people…
And your point is…question mark, i dont understand what you mean by friendly. Of course they should be friendly because they are wise and seem to have learned from the mistakes of the past otherwise they would still be the monster they used to be.
So you used to live in Turkey huh….question mark, I want to ask you if the Turkey people harassed you and called you a parasite, welfare shopper and told you to go back to your country…question mark. The sense i got from your post is you were free to live in Turkey and no one bothered you right, if thats so i wonder what made you so resistant to immigrant coming to Finland, or is\t just a certain type of immigrants your opposing.
Matti> As for NAZI spirits coming out of graves….. not so….Indeed, watch whom you even ‘wish’ to label a NAZI…..
Well Matti, could it be the reason you dont see Nazis in anywhere perhaps because you dont see anything wrong about the ideology.
I believe we should label people who wear Nazi symbols and clothing and associate with the Nazis as Nazis. Associating with Nazis still may not make you a Nazi but your a suspect of being a Nazi and hence i dont see any wrong labeling them as a Nazi.
If i dressed as a budah monk and hang with budhist i would be associated with budhist right……the same goes with the Nazis……anyone who assciates with Nazis is fair and right to be called so. Period.
MattiR2106> you feel that all countries should be open to anyone who wishes to enter…. If that’s so, why do you not/not go to Russia, China, or even modern day Japan…
Well thats really odd question your asking me. My answer to that is me and my family after the civil war just happened to come to Finland by accident and Finland gave as refuge residence. You asked many in your post why come to Finland, and my answer to you was people have the right to come and work and live in Finland just like Finns move to different part of the world to seek the same.
MattiR206> Finns do go abroad, and have been much appreciated wherever they’ve settled because of their hard work and ethics…. and they learn the ways of the host country and settle in for the long haul
Well, can you really call these Finns that are living in spain a hard working Finns http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/art-1430358963531.html………..question mark.
Matti, your putting all Finns in one jar, you think all Finns are the same everywhere they go, like designed robots, hard working, law abiding preprogrammed to be ideal people lol there is no such thing Matti and you know that. Finns are abroad just like any other human beings. They have those who are hard working and those who are a losers. I have a friends who live in America and they tell me to have worked with Finns who are alcoholic, violent and very disturbance to work places. Now dont get me twisted, im not saying all Finns are the same, thats not me because that would be unfair to ethnic Finns.
Matti> If that’s so, why do you not/not go to Russia, China, or even modern day Japan
Well Matti, we both know that Russia is not really good at with human rights, so, your example of russia is very poor.
At the end of the day my point is if one ehtnic group have the right to travel and reside to everywhere then all other ehtnic groups should have the same right. This world do not belong to only one type of ehtnic group, it belongs to all of us and we should have the same right period.
“At the end of the day my point is if one ehtnic group have the right to travel and reside to everywhere then all other ehtnic groups should have the same right. This world do not belong to only one type of ehtnic group, it belongs to all of us and we should have the same right period.”
World does not belong to everyone. There is just different countries whose citizens have build their country to their liking. It is not a human right to be able to move where ever you want. It is up to the citizens of a country to decide who can come who can’t. That is all there is to it.
There is no special right for certain ethnic group to live where ever they want. If Finns move to somewhere, they do it according to the rules of the target country. Some finns fill the requirement and they can come, some finns don’t. There is no race wide privilege. You can move to where ever you want as long as you fill the requirements the target country sets.
Only privilege there is, that YOU can move where ever you want because you can cry a river how bad and dangerous your own country is. With that you can get in even though you don’t fill the requirements other have to fill. So if there is privilege, it is you who have it, not whites.
Since when is Finland (or any other country for that matter…) is supposed to entertain your wish to come to Finland … just because you think the entire world is your oyster….. Come to Finland, find a viable job, learn the language and our traditions, respect these traditions even if you don’t participate…. they are ours… time-honoured…. they work for us…. it’s when you yowl about your so-called treatment….. it’s the lot of almost any immigrant to face some sort of negativity in a new country…. When we landed in our new country, there was some calls of being a “DP”…. it was soon after WWII and DPs were displaced persons…. we were not displaced by the war…. we immigrated of our own volition… and eventually became part of the scenery….. You and your ilk continually cry about your treatment…… shut your gate, get a job, learn the language or move on to friendlier territory…. Try Sweden, Enrique Tessieri loves the place…. but yet doesn’t live there…..
If I read the Ilta-Sanomat correctly, it would appear that the Finns in Fuengirola…. are drug addicts….Indeed, they and other boozy Finns give the country a bad name…. I make no apology for the behaviour of drunken Finns going abroad for purely drinking…. but there’s nothing new there… Finns, along with many other northern races have a poor tolerance for alcohol…. (believe it or not…. it’s in the genes)… are easily addicted, and consequences are sad/terrible/horrible…. take your choice… It’s part of the human condition everywhere…. Spain should send these unfortunates back to Finland for us to take care of own…. You probably would welcome such a move….. but where does that leave you?? If you are a bit of a bad actor (got into shit due to some Koskenkorvaa) in Finland ….. then don’t yowl too loudly if we demand the same treatment for you……. However the underlying thrust of almost everything you say/write…. is: Treat me differently because I feel am different and know that the Liberal politics are all for/about skin colour politics…..and you’re in the line up…. for all the ‘free’ shit. That’s what it sounds like….. none of you write anything about what you would do or sacrifice to become a decent citizen in Finland or any country….. you sound like you’re shopping for the best deal, at the same time trying make me feel guilty for your situation…. Not going to happen here…..
D4R…. you seem to be stuck on the NAZI song…. move the needle man… I do understand why you do it….. Your argument meets opposition … hence it must be crushed and the best way is to give it a horrific label…. NAZI, racist….You see them everywhere because you’re so pissed at your own short comings…. It must be somebody else’s fault…. and they must labelled something terrible….
Yossie> Some finns fill the requirement and they can come, some finns don’t. There is no race wide privilege. You can move to where ever you want as long as you fill the requirements the target country sets.
I agree with you on this one, that you have fill the requirement the target country sets before you can settle in, so why are we making such a noise about the ones who fill the requirement Finland has set for the new comers…..question mark.
Yossie> Only privilege there is, that YOU can move where ever you want because you can cry a river how bad and dangerous your own country is.
Whose is crying and what…..i dont understand this one. If your talking about the refugees that are fleeing their war torn country then please have some sympathy for these people. Its not easy to flee from a warn torn country and lose everything!,