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Verkkouutiset: Hyvä persut! Muistakaa äänestää kehitysavun puolesta!

Posted on December 2, 2010 by Migrant Tales

COMMENT: This story that appeared on the Kokoomus’ web publication Verkkouutiset has an interesting interview with Green Party MP Pekka Haavisto that reveals how the True Finns would change refugee policy. He mentions that True Finn MP Pietari Jääskäläinen believes that the best solution for Finland would be to stop accepting refugees. Our country should, instead, help these needy people near their home countries.

The True Finns are also seeking to tighten immigration policy and are critical of Finland’s membership in the European Union.

Should such a party be taken seriously? What do you think?

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Kirjoittanut SUVI HAUTANEN

Kansanedustaja Pekka Haavisto (vihr.) ei laita juurikaan painoarvoa perussuomalaisten puheille turvapaikanhakijoiden auttamisesta lähellä kotimaata.

Kansanedustaja Pietari Jääskäläinen (ps.) esitteli tiistaina perussuomalaisten “patenttiratkaisun” pakolaisten kotouttamisongelmiin.

Green Party MP Pekka Haavisto. (Lehtikuva/Jarno Mela)

Puolueen mielestä Suomen ei tulisi vastaanottaa lainkaan turvapaikanhakijoita, vaan turvapaikkaa tarvitsevat tulisi kotouttaa lähellä kotimaataan.

– Aina kun sanotaan, että ihmisiä autetaan lähellä, niin odotan, että hyvä, muistakaa sitten äänestää korkeamman kehitysyhteistyömäärärahan puolesta eduskunnassa, sanoo Pekka Haavisto Verkkouutisille.

– Minä en ole huomannut, että perussuomalaiset olisivat äänestäneet vielä kertaakaan korkeampien kehitysyhteistyömäärärahojen puolesta tai tehneet siitä aloitetta. Puhutaan, että autetaan siellä kotona, mutta siihen ei osoiteta varoja. Minä en tällaiselle puheille pane paljon arvoa, jos ei siinä ole jotain esitystä.

Suomi on varannut kehitysyhteistyöhön 965,6 miljoonaa euroa tälle vuodelle.

Jos esimerkiksi pakolaisten ja turvapaikanhakijoiden vastaanottoon tälle vuodelle budjetoitu 102,4 miljoonaa euroa käytettäisiin pakolaisten kotouttamiseen lähellä heidän kotimaataan, tarkoittaisi se kymmenen prosentin korotusta kehitysyhteistyömäärärahoihin.

EU:n systeemi poskellaan

Haaviston mielestä turvapaikanhakijoiden kohtelun pitäisi olla samanlaista kaikkialla Euroopan unionissa.

Hänen mielestä nykyjärjestelmä ei toimi. Sen jälkeen, kun ihminen on päässyt Schengen-alueelle, hän voi päättää, mistä maasta hakee turvapaikkaa.

– Pohjoismaat on ollut yksi suosittu kohde, eli mennään sellaiseen maahan, jossa tiedetään, että saadaan oikeudenmukainen kohtelu. Tässä on mielestäni EU:n systeemi poskellaan.

Hänen mielestä EU-mailla tulisi olla yhtenäiset standardit, minkä verran rahaa turvapaikanhakijoille maksetaan ja minkä verran materiaalista tukea hakemuksen käsittelyaikana annetaan.

– Minun mielestäni painetta pitäisi olla EU:n suuntaan, että nämä systeemit olisivat yhtenevät.

Vähintään tuhat kiintiöpakolaista

Perussuomalaisten mielestä Suomen tulisi vastaanottaa ainoastaan kiintiöpakolaisia. Haavisto huomauttaa, että se olisi kansainvälisten sopimusten vastaista.

– Kyllähän niiden (turvapaikanhakijoiden) joukossa on aitoa apua tarvitsevia ihmisiä, jotka täyttävät kaikki YK:n pakolaiskriteerit.

Haaviston mielestä kiintiöpakolaisia pitäisi ottaa vähintään tuhat vuosittain nykyisen 750 sijaan.

– Se on aika matala se kiintiö, minkä verran kiintiöpakolaisia otetaan. Minulla on aina ollut hirveän suuri sympatia tätä YK-systeemiä kohtaan. He ovat helisemässä pitkään jatkuneissa kriiseissä, joissa ihmiset ovat leireillä vuosia tai vuosikymmeniä. Jotta UNHCR:n (YK:n pakolaisavun) toiminta voisi jatkua, niin siellä pitää olla joku reikä ulos ratkaisemattomista kriiseistä. Sen vuoksi itse toivoisin, että me voisimme tässä auttaa YK:ta enemmänkin.

Hän ottaa esimerkiksi burmalaiset Thaimaan pakolaisleirillä.

– Thaimaa ei päästä heitä ulos leiriltä, että he voisivat toimia Thaimaassa vapaasti ja Burmaan heillä ei ole paluuta. Minua on tällaisten ihmisten kohtalo surettanut. Ihmisten elämä hukkaantuu paikoissa, missä heillä ei ole paluuta entiseen, mutta mitään uutta ei ole tarjolla.

Tietotaitoa takaisin Somaliaan

Haavisto kertoo ehdottaneensa ulkomaankauppa- ja kehitysyhteistyöministeri Paavo Väyryselle (kesk.), että Suomi voisi tukea tietotaidon viemistä Somaliaan.

– Olen itse käynyt katsomassa Hargeysassa, kuinka Suomesta takaisin muuttaneet somalit ovat panneet pystyyn yliopiston ja ovat mukana liiketoiminnassa siellä.

Haavisto näkee, että Suomen somaliväestön tietotaidon ja osaamisen voisi yhdistää kehitysyhteistyön tavoitteeseen vakauttaa Somalia ja luoda sinne työpaikkoja. Hänen mielestä sitä varten tarvittaisiin kehitysohjelma.

– Sieltä on lähtenyt koulutetut, osaavat intellektuellit sodan jaloista pois. Nyt kun jotkut alueet ovat rauhallisia, näitä ihmisiä tarvittaisiin kipeästi auttamaan jälleenrakennuksessa.

Haavisto korostaa, että kyse ei olisi pakotetusta paluumuutosta, vaan mahdollisuudesta. Väyrynen ei Haaviston mielestä ole ainakaan vielä lämmennyt idealle.

Category: All categories, Enrique

22 thoughts on “Verkkouutiset: Hyvä persut! Muistakaa äänestää kehitysavun puolesta!”

  1. Tony Garcia says:
    December 3, 2010 at 9:15 am

    “He mentions that True Finn MP Pietari Jääskäläinen believes that the best solution for Finland would be to stop accepting refugees. Our country should, instead, help these needy people near their home countries. “

    Agreed 100%. Where can I sign?

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  2. Tony Garcia says:
    December 3, 2010 at 9:32 am

    “Should such a party be taken seriously?”

    What kind of question is that? The answer is – Absolutely. Their immigration policy is the only reason people should vote for True Finns, the rest of their policies are probably rubbish.

    To those who are still in doubt just consider this:

    If you had to have a choice where you would like to live?

    Malmo or Tampere, Jyväskylä or outskirts of Paris, Oulu or Luton, Pori or Limerick?

    If you prefer the Finnish cities instead of those more multicultural, on this election, please vote for True Finns. It doesn’t mean put them in power, of course not, what we need is only give the main parties a fright, a good one. Don’t forget that in Finland, like anywhere else, politicians are only concerned about their jobs. We need to use the most powerful weapon we have, our vote ballot. Don’t waste it, please.

    Finland is a lovely place, full of lovely people, let’s keep it that way…

    Reply
  3. JusticeDemon says:
    December 3, 2010 at 10:11 am

    lol@Tony the Toby

    Vote for them, but don’t elect them. ffs 🙂

    What a pinhead!

    Reply
  4. Tony Garcia says:
    December 3, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Something interesting I noticed is that for someone who believes that “polls are only polls”, “they are a tiny minority”, “they are small fry”, “they fit into a cab”, and all the rest of it, you do write a lot about them, don’t you?

    Reply
  5. Klay_Immigrant says:
    December 4, 2010 at 8:08 am

    Tony are you aware of the late British Conservative politician Enoch Powell?

    If not here’s a brief outline of him.

    He became a full Professor at the young age of 25 years old. The record to achieve that was the age of 24 years old at the time. He was able to speak 12 languages yes not a typo I repeat 12 languages fluently. So his academic and intellectual ability could not be denied.

    He fought the Nazis in WWII reaching the rank of brigadier in his early 30s. So no one can accuse him of being a racist/fasict/Nazi.

    But he also predicted the outbreak of WWII and the course it would take learning Russian at the outbreak of war as he thought they held the key to victory. Proved to be correct on both counts.

    But he also predicted in 1968 the dire consequences of multiculturalism combinating in his famous ‘River of Blood’ speech. In a poll at the time 80% agreed with him but for the speech, he was sacked from his position as Shadow Defence Secretary (1965–1968) in the shadow cabinet of Edward Heath.

    However, the large public following which Powell attracted helped the Conservatives to win the 1970 general election.

    There is a 2008 BBC documentary about him on youtube
    called ‘Enoch Powell – Rivers of Blood’. Worth a look if you have time.

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    1. Enrique says:
      December 4, 2010 at 9:57 am

      Klay, you never get tired of complaining. So who cares what he warns but what are the solutions TODAY to make our society function better? You and some others always conveniently forget that Europe IS diverse and that Europe HAS a Muslim minority. They are Europeans.

      Give us some solutions, please. Possibly the reason why you cannot come up with any workable solution is because it would reveal your true political views or your grasp of the subject. Offering a solution does not mean pretty quotes peppered with sound bites.

      At least some of us believe in this blog that the best way to make immigration and cultural diversity work (it is already here/it is a reality) is by accepting that we are already diverse and that our laws must include them as well. The issue is not making a stink about something where there is no need to.

      Reply
  6. JusticeDemon says:
    December 4, 2010 at 9:02 am

    Klay

    Are you familiar with the expression self-fulfilling prophecy?

    Reply
  7. Klay_Immigrant says:
    December 4, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Tony on youtube type ‘The White Season – Rivers of blood (BBC Doc)’ to get the same full documentary in 8 parts as other sources have missing parts.

    Reply
  8. JusticeDemon says:
    December 4, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Klay

    I apologise if the last point was too abstract for you.

    Perhaps this BBC news item will focus your attention more effectively. Ask yourself what those of your mentality said at the time about this immigration episode, and how much of it turned out to be true.

    Reply
    1. Enrique says:
      December 4, 2010 at 10:35 am

      JusticeDemon drives home a good point: What is the far-rights’/long-gone neocon discourse: incompatibility, threat, we must change the laws to fit my greedy and pathological world…

      Reply
  9. Tony Garcia says:
    December 4, 2010 at 10:18 am

    “Klay, you never get tired of complaining.”

    Neither do you.

    ” but what are the solutions TODAY to make our society function better?”

    Assimilation…

    Enrique, I’m quite sure Steyn is talking particularly to you…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcpZ467RDVw

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    1. Enrique says:
      December 4, 2010 at 10:33 am

      Yes, I remember this guy. Isn’t he the one that likes to make funny jokes and throws sound bites? I am already laughing.

      Reply
  10. Tony Garcia says:
    December 4, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Thanks Klay, I’ll have a look at those videos.

    Reply
  11. Tony Garcia says:
    December 4, 2010 at 10:49 am

    “I am already laughing.”

    How about rather than laugh you answer his question? Which current Muslim city would you like to live in?

    PS. How did the Mosque talk go? How did the Muslims reacted when we told them that Christians and Jews are equal than Muslims?

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    1. Enrique says:
      December 4, 2010 at 11:25 am

      Tony, if you think of it the discourse of these types of people IS funny. Why? Because there is no way that it can be taken seriously. But sure, get your flapjacket and helmet and get ready for the next “race war.” I will instead buy some Three Stooges DVDs and have some laughs of this merry band that is very different from another one that I mentioned before.

      Reply
    2. Enrique says:
      December 4, 2010 at 11:27 am

      The era of the neocons has been confined to the dustbin of history. We can all sleep safer tonight.

      Reply
  12. JusticeDemon says:
    December 4, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Tony the Toby

    You have never been in a Finnish mosque, and yet you presume to know all about them.

    Tony the Toby: About as bright as a burned out lightbulb.

    Reply
  13. Tony Garcia says:
    December 4, 2010 at 11:51 am

    As usual, dodging and spinning but no question answered.

    Which Muslims city would you like to live in?

    How did the Mosque talk go?

    Prove that we all wrong here, prove that Muslims love Jews and Christians. If you can’t, sorry my friend but, case closed…

    “Because there is no way that it can be taken seriously.”

    I’m sorry but I take Muslims violence and Islamic anti-Semitism very seriously.

    Reply
  14. xyz says:
    December 4, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    I think the issue why some Islamic countries have a different development rather than Western countries can become more clear when you look at the history of those countries:

    -Colonial rivalries hindered modernization and democratization.
    -Transfer of wealth from the colonies to the mother countries.
    -Delineation of borders by colonial powers saw the seeds of long military conflicts within many colonialized lands
    -The militarization of politics has been a major barrier to the Muslim world’s democratization.
    -In post-colonial era, Muslim countries have been operating within an unfavorable external environment: The Anglo-American coup d’état against Mussadeq’s regime in Iran, the Suez war, and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and ,of course the latest Afghan and Iraq wars, are some of the more dramatic and destructive examples of such interventions.
    -Historical evidence also proves that cultural factors are not the only variables helping or hindering modernization and democratization, partly because cultures are not static and immutable. Rather, they are subject to change and evolution.

    Source: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1252187862370&pagename=Zone-English-Living_Shariah%2FLSELayout

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  15. Klay_Immigrant says:
    December 4, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    Nice source xyz http://www.islamonline.com they will give a non bias neutral view point on Islam. Next time I’ll make sure to use Far-Right websites as sources for information on multiculturalism. By the way you said before your father is from an Arab country. Can I ask which one?

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  16. xyz says:
    December 4, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    Klay, you can read this stuff also in history books. My father is from Iran. I am neither Christian nor Muslim. Religion is not important for me.

    Reply
  17. JusticeDemon says:
    December 4, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Klay

    That was manifest arrant prejudice, Klay. You dismissed that source purely because its authors are educated Moslems. In truth these are the very people you are afraid to debate with. Far better to take your characterisations of Islam from the cheap shots of tabloid journalists bankrolled by the oil lobby, eh?

    Reply

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