By Enrique Tessieri
Behind all the rhetoric spread by anti-immigration groups in Finland and elsewhere a fact emerges: they are out to destroy the lives of as many immigrants as possible with their prejudice and racism. When a Justice Ministry official hands over rape statistics on various immigrant groups he gives a power weapon to slander and victimize people from various countries.
Such statistics have little value apart from hindering the integration of hard-working immigrants and those that want to make and build their future in this country.
Risto Laakkonen said on YLE’s Historiansarjoja: Raggarit, rasismi ja suomalaiset program how Swedish newspapers stopped linking crimes to national origin in 1970. The Finnish Embassy in Stockholm was instrumental in reaching an agreement with the editors-in-chief of Sweden’s major newspapers, who agreed not to publish the nationality of individuals committing a crime.
Things had gotten so bad in Sweden that the media had a common saying whenever a Finn was involved in a crime: En finne igen, or Yet another Finn.
Racist perceptions of different groups in Finland is more widespread than people would like to think, and the media have played a key role in spreading racism and prejudices among the population.
The fact that a political group openly spreads and distorts crime statistics about another national group is the worst form of chicanery.
If anti-immigration groups like the Perussuomalaiset (PS) party are honestly interested in promoting the integration of various cultures in our society, why do they commonly single out immigrants and never suggest the same things for Finns?
A case in point of the latter can be found in a good opinion-piece by Hussein Muhammed. PS MP Jussi Halla-aho has suggested that unemployed immigrants should be put to work, even if this means digging and refilling holes. Muhammed asks: “…why must this kind of work only apply to “newcomers?” Shouldn’t it apply equally to “natives” or to the majority population that are unemployed?”
Why do anti-immigration groups apply two standards? One of these are for “newcomers” and the other for “natives?” Why are they so eager to use crime statistics and point the accusing finger at the whole group?
The answer to that question is simple. It is prejudice with a capital P, and racism with a fat R.
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RL 11:10
What did we expect when first time Finns voted people like Jussi Halla Aho to the parliament? surely not a good good outcome, me personally i was shocked when Jussi get in to the parliament, so these type of suggestion by Jussi don’t surprise me, we shall expect nothing but the worst, we got fascist and racist in the parliament so immigrants should expect nothing but the worst.
Mary Mekko, you’re a good example of what kind of racist parasites are in this country, and you parasites are spreading rapidly, i don’t kno what type of vaccine you guys need to be used against, you’re calling us parasite? that only shows that you don’t know anything about humanity and how it works, you lived all your live in a comfortable live here in Finland, you didn’t have to struggle for your life, let me tell you something, alot of immigrants are stronger than you, you wouldnt survive a day of what they go through from day to day, it’s easy for you to sit there munching your donits day to day and cuss at poor people who have to take sh*t from your kind of people.
Mary Mekko, you need to be kicked out of native Indian land, your kind of racist parasites are the ones who wiped out native indian population. Why don’t you go back to Finland your ciuntry. Mary Mekko, why are you in the states? don’t you know that it belongs to the Native Indians, i know they’d tell you to go home if they knew what kind of racist you practice on the net. This onething i never understood of some Finns, they like to practice racism in their country but THEY NEVER MIND TO GO TO ABROAD AND ENJOY LIFE, but when it comes to their country people going there oh no no they get defensive and racist to people who come to their country unless they have blond and blue eyes like them.
Mary Mekko, instead of prejudging us and calling us parasites, you should come back to Finland and work hard with your native Finnish people to over come their prejudice and give jobs to colored immigrants, calling them parasites and not getting ín to the actual problem of what is the cause of colored immigrants not getting job is not smart of you Mary Mekko, unless you have an agena.
It’s Hard to stand on your feet when society tries to put you down and label you continuously, but it demands a great mental capacity to stand on your feet and not to break down mentally. I shall stand on my feet no matter what is the outcome, in any situation. That was my day powet, good day ya’ll, im off to work and pay taxes. 🙂
D4R this is true what you say: It’s Hard to stand on your feet when society tries to put you down and label you continuously.
However, if you survive that hostility and emerge still standing on your two feet, you will have turned into a lion.
The harder they hit you the stronger you get. Contrary to hate racist websites, we are building our strength on lasting things that will always inspire humankind: social justice and equality. All we are doing is following our laws and values.
Mitäpä tästä. Keskitymme liikaa ongelmista puhumiseen ja maahanmuutto vastaisten ihmisten valitteluun.
Migrant Tales
Miten me ratkaisemme maahanmuutto ongelman. Miten me hoidamme rasismi ongelman. Miten aiomme työllistää työttömät varilliset. Miten aijomme pitää nuoria mustia pois rikollisuuden tieltä. Niihin meidän pitäisi keskittyä.
D4R, you raised a very interesting point; Finns think it is within their rights to migrate to any foreign country and enjoy the life there, but they vehemently oppose any form of immigration to their own country. Finns, why is it ok for you to settle in another person’s country, but not ok for someone else to settle in Finland? If you want to play by that rule, then all Finns in foreign countries should return to Finland. Until this is done, Finns have no right to tell anyone to keep away from Finland!
A common excuse Finns use to explain their anti-immigration stance is to accuse immigrants of not integrating into Finnsh society. How the heck can we integrate when most of you are not willing to share your society with us? Further, from the numerous documentaries I have watched on Finnish emigration to other countries, it is clear that Finns worked very hard to keep their culture alive in those countries they emigrated to. In Sweden, Finns still publish their own newspapers in Finnish, and insist on using Finnish as their operational language, in spite of being in a Swedish society. Finnish culture is very strong in certain parts of Sweden.
In the USA, Finns adhered strongly to their culture, even having Finnish towns complete with Finnish stores, Finnsh signs etc. If you Finns keep your Finnish culture wherever you emigrate to, how dare you expect us to discard everything from our own cultures in order to integrate into yours? From my point of view, I try to integrate in Finland, but not at the expense of my own culture. I will not drop my own culture for Finnish culture; what I can do is integrate the 2 cultures. That way I can adopt certain aspects of Finnish culture, and integrate it into my own culture. that is the best that I can do. Never will I drop my own culture entirely when you Finns refuse to drop your own culture in foreign lands!
Youhooooooooooo
A great message for all racist people in Finland
U tried alot to make me tired and sick, but am so sorry for u because i am winner all the time
U cant stop me, u have no power on me, but u r all under my feet i mean u r nothing for me, zero thats mean of u
U r zero
Am zorro, zorroooooooooooooooooooo
peace and joy to me, Finland and the world
Love u our planet, love u earth
Foreigner: Why do you say Finns? That gives an impression that you think that ALL Finns think like that.
Anyway, if such people exists, it might be that when they are talking about a Finn immigrating to other country, that Finn will live there with his own expence. And when they are talking about other immigrants coming to Finland, they have no problems with that if that immigrant also is paying the expenses.
I think that mostly those Finns who oppose immigration, they are only opposing that kind of immigration when immigrant comes to Finland to live with our expence.
That needs to take in account when comparing those things.
Foreigner: In the USA, Finns adhered strongly to their culture, even having Finnish towns complete with Finnish stores, Finnsh signs etc. If you Finns keep your Finnish culture wherever you emigrate to, how dare you expect us to discard everything from our own cultures in order to integrate into yours? From my point of view, I try to integrate in Finland, but not at the expense of my own culture. I will not drop my own culture for Finnish culture; what I can do is integrate the 2 cultures. That way I can adopt certain aspects of Finnish culture, and integrate it into my own culture. that is the best that I can do. Never will I drop my own culture entirely when you Finns refuse to drop your own culture in foreign lands!
I expect anti-immigrants to answer this, why is’t that Finns can migrate to different part of the worlds and practice their culture and language but not vice versa?
Farang : Anyway, if such people exists, it might be that when they are talking about a Finn immigrating to other country, that Finn will live there with his own expence.
Poor excuse, come back and try again, how do you know that they live on their own expance? do you know them? you can’t possible know all Finns do you, you never stop amazing me how you are quick to give excuse every point that’s shown to you.
Farang: I think that mostly those Finns who oppose immigration, they are only opposing that kind of immigration when immigrant comes to Finland to live with our expence.
So Farang, let me ask you this, what’s going to happen then, when the immigrant who lived on his expance loses his job and cant earn anymore?, are you going to kick him out even though he has life and spouse in Finland?
D4R, you continue to amaze me with your ignorance and incapability of understanding written text. What part of the word “might” did you not understand. I clearly said that it might be the reason, I never said that I was 100 % sure it was the reason.
No, D4R, I will not kick anyone out from Finland. Why are you so ignorant that you purposelu refuse to understand that I AM NOT AGAINST IMMIGRANTS. How should I spell it out for you so you would understand?
I am simply trying to discuss here and speculate what could be the reason for some people to act and feel negatively towards immigrants. And everytime I say something that could be the reason, you and your idiot friends attack me like it was MY opinion or something.
Farang : D4R, you continue to amaze me with your ignorance and incapability of understanding written text. What part of the word “might” did you not understand. I clearly said that it might be the reason, I never said that I was 100 % sure it was the reason.
No, D4R, I will not kick anyone out from Finland. Why are you so ignorant that you purposelu refuse to understand that I AM NOT AGAINST IMMIGRANTS. How should I spell it out for you so you would understand?
I am simply trying to discuss here and speculate what could be the reason for some people to act and feel negatively towards immigrants. And everytime I say something that could be the reason, you and your idiot friends attack me like it was MY opinion or something.
Why don’t you grow up and stop demeaning all the time, it goes to show that, you ran out of point, when someone is shown him to be wrong he gets nervouse and starts resorting fault language, you seem to doing so, you said earlier that you and the other racist arent against immigration to Finland aslong as they’re the right imigrants, the ones who support themselves, did i get it right? ok if so then, what will you do these immigrants who were supporting theirself financially before and then ends up losing job? are you going to kick them, because as i undertood from your early comment you only want immigrants who support themselves. I hope i don’t have to spell this for you, i hope this was clear for your understanding lol
Farang: I AM NOT AGAINST IMMIGRANTS. How should I spell it out for you so you would understand?
You said also this, Farang: I think that mostly those Finns who oppose immigration, they are only opposing that kind of immigration when immigrant comes to Finland to live with our expence.
You’re being selective when it comes to immigrants who’re coming here, you expect immigrants to come here and start right away job and live with their own expance right, other immigrants are a no no to you, ok, my initial question is, what will you do with the immigrants who were living with their own expance and then loses their job?
Farang Sinäänsä se, että et taida hirveesti kannattaa maahanmuuttoa, ei itsektään ole paha asia. Argumenttit joilla yrität osoittaa miksi maahanmuuttoa pitäisi vastustaa ovat lievästi sanoen tyhmiä. Valitat että ihmiset tulevat elämään suomeen suomalaisten rahoilla. Ensimmäisesti jos sinä olet ei-eurooppalaisen, on suuri todennäköisyys, että sinulla on ihan kohtuu hyvä koulutus. On mahdollista, että henkilöllä on, jopa yliopistokoulutus. Köyhät ei-eurooppalaiset ovat kotona Afrikassa tai Asiassa. Ainoa keino jolla köyhät ei-eurooppalaiset pääsisivät Suomeen olisi ihmiskaupalla tai pakolaisuus statusella.
Etelä-Euroopassa tilanne on ongelmallisempi. Se johtuu pitkälti välimerestä. Afrikkalaiset voivat yksinkertaisesti veneillä tulla eurooppaan. Vaikka me emme hirveesti puhu siitä, mutta pohjois-afrikassa on pahoja maahanmuutto ongelmia. Tuhannet arabit tekevät omaisuusta hyödyntämällä mustien halua päästä eurooppaan työn ja paremman elämän toivossa. Arabit eivät ole olleet hirvittävän kohteliaita mustia muslimi veljiä kohtaan. Voi sanoa että rotu vihan verivanat kasvavat pohjois-afrikassa.
Suurin osa Suomeen tulevasta maahanmuutosta on työ peräistä. Näiden työperäisten maahanmuuttajien kärkijoukko on Venäläisiä ja Virolaisia. Ongelma on ollut etenkin Virolaisten kohdalla verottaminen. Osa työperäisistä maahanmuuttajista eivät maksaa veroja Suomeen koska he eivät asu Suomessa vakituisesti.
Maahanmuutto on ongelmallinen asia, mutta Farang voisimmeko hieman pitää yllä suhteelisuuden tajua. Haluaisitko kertoo vielä lisää syitä vastustaa maahanmuuttoa.
Oletko Sasu kuullut white flight-ilmiöstä?
Schoolboy Kyllä olen. Termi tulee amerikasta ja sitä alettiin käyttää 1960-1970 luvuilla kuvaamaan ilmiötä jossa afroamerikkalaiset muuttivat valkoiseen asuin alueeseen. Sitä seurasi valkoisten asuskaiden massiivinen muutto pois alueelta. Pois muuttoa perusteltiin pitkäti mustien väkivaltaisuudella ja tyhmyydellä. Termin alkuperä ja merkitys.
Suomessa termiä käytetään hieman väärin. Suomessa termiä käytetään kuvaamaan kantasuomalaisten pois muuttoa, kun termi oikeasti tarkoittaa valkoisten pois muuttoa.
White flight on Euroopassa yleinen ilmiö. Sadat tuhannet saksalaiset, sadat tuhannet espanjalaiset ja sadat tuhannet hollantilaiset ovat lähteneet pois omista maistaan. Merkittävä osa myös Euroopan ulkopuolelle, jenkkeihin, Australiaan jne.
Siis “white flight” ovat eurooppalaisia jotka etsivät työtä muualla (Australiasta, Norjasta, Suomesta, Argentiinasta..) vai mitä?
2000-luvulla.
Schoolboy: White flight on Euroopassa yleinen ilmiö. Sadat tuhannet saksalaiset, sadat tuhannet espanjalaiset ja sadat tuhannet hollantilaiset ovat lähteneet pois omista maistaan. Merkittävä osa myös Euroopan ulkopuolelle, jenkkeihin, Australiaan jne.
Lol Miksikä he muuttvat Amerikan Intiaanien alkuperäis maata? tai aboriginaalien alkuperäis maata, minun mielestäni heidän pitää pysyä euroopassa tai ehkä muuttaa kuuhun tai etsiä muuta planeettaa, kun kerran eivät halua tulla toimeen muiden rotujen kanssa, muuttamalla Amerikkaan mikä on Amerikan Intiaanien maa ja jotka on melkein hävitety sukupuuttoon kuulostaa aika hassulta minun mielestä, ehkä erooppalaisten whiteflight voisi olla joku toinen planeetta.
M.T : Siis “white flight” ovat eurooppalaisia jotka etsivät työtä muualla (Australiasta, Norjasta, Suomesta, Argentiinasta..) vai mitä?
Mä luulen että hän tarkoitti valkoisten pako muita erivärisiä ihmisiä lol eli whiteflight valkoistenpako. Aika hassu termi minun mielestä.
D4R Ei termi sinäänsä hassu ole jos miettii missä ja milloin se syntyi. Sehän syntyi juuri amerikkalaisen apartheid loputtua. Tuhannet mustat alkoivat muuttaa ennen kielettyisin valkoisiin yhteisöihin. Valkoiset näkivät tämän tunkeutumisena omaan reviirinsä ja muuttivat pois. Siitä se termi tulee.
Schoolboy Voisitko näyttää nämä tilastot.
Kirjoitussesta saa sen tunnun, että et ole hirveen ilahtunut Euroopan monikulttuuristumiseen ja monirotuisuuten. Olenko oikeassa.
sasu, kiitos selityksestä.
Etsi ite Sasu tilastot. Mulle on aivan sama kuka tai mikä asuu mun napurissa, kunhan osaa käyttäytyä. En tiedä mitä on tapahtunut Hollannissa ja Saksassa mutta espanjalaiset ovat saaneet tarpeekseen. Tuskin muuten lähettäisi sankoin joukoin pois omasta maastaan.
Schoolboy, en tiedä mihin perustat väitteet. Asuin Espanjassa eikä ihmisiä ovat “white flightissa.” Ne ovat “searching for a job flightissa” koska taloudellinen-tilanne on surkea.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/28/new-europe-spain-graduates-emigrate
100 000 lähti 2010. Huhutaan että, 2011 lähti vielä enemmän. Oli syy mikä tahansa niin siirtolaisten ottaminen siinä tilanteessa on kuin tekisi itsemurhaa omalle valtiolle.
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=sp&v=27
Suoraa hulluutta. Joka vuosi lähtee enemän porukkaa Espanjasta ja joka vuosi tulee enemmän tilalle. Sama kohtalo Suomella, sitä kirjoitetaan jo lehdissä. Rikkaat lähtee, köyhät tulee. Työttömyys 2015 noin 20% Suomessa?
Työttömyys on noussut Espanjassa 10% noin 20% kymmenessä vuodessa. Hyvästit Espanja!
–Työttömyys on noussut Espanjassa 10% noin 20% kymmenessä vuodessa. Hyvästit Espanja!
Varo Schoolboy, ne ovat tulossa Suomeen.
schoolboy : Etsi ite Sasu tilastot. Mulle on aivan sama kuka tai mikä asuu mun napurissa, kunhan osaa käyttäytyä. En tiedä mitä on tapahtunut Hollannissa ja Saksassa mutta espanjalaiset ovat saaneet tarpeekseen. Tuskin muuten lähettäisi sankoin joukoin pois omasta maastaan.
Mutta mihin he menevät? toi sinun menevätAmerikka tai Australia kommenttissa ei ole järkeä, eikö pitäisi kysyä Amerikan intiaanien ja Australian Aboriginaalien hävitetyltä kanslta ensin lupa`? minun mielestä eurooppalaisten viimeinen päätepysäkki on Ural-vuori tai toista planeetta ettei kauheat Ulkomaalaiset enää tule heitä lähelle.
schoolboy: Huhutaan ?
Sinä ja sun huhupuheet. Etkö sä pysty ajattelemaan omilla aivoillasi? pitääkö sinun uskoa kuin tyhmä kaiken mailman huhupuheet, kehitä itsellesi asioiden analysointi ennenkuin sokeana alat uskomaan kaiken mailman huhupuheet, koska kyllä mailmalta löytyy kaiken mailman huhupuheet.
schoolboy: Suoraa hulluutta. Joka vuosi lähtee enemän porukkaa Espanjasta ja joka vuosi tulee enemmän tilalle. Sama kohtalo Suomella, sitä kirjoitetaan jo lehdissä. Rikkaat lähtee, köyhät tulee. Työttömyys 2015 noin 20% Suomessa?
Joo mutta mihin menevät? Amerikka ja Australia eivät ainakaan ole tervetulleita, kummaltakin on alkuperäiskanssa melkein hävitetty ja pakolla otettu, joten sinun tyhmä väitteesi kuulostaa enemmän tyhmältä, olisko ehkä Ural-vuori parempi vaihtoehto, sinne ei ainakaan ulkomaalaiset tule sen varma.