What is more serious: encouraging people to kill the prime minister and finance minister of your country or suggesting that Muslims should be boiled alive? The police are presently investigating whether to launch an inquiry against Perussuomalaiset (PS) Kotka municipal election candidate Amon Rautiainen, reports YLE in English.
Rautiainen has publicly apologized for what he wrote on Facebook.
”I wrote the posts with humor and in the heat of the moment,” he said.
Like many racists and social media bullies, you will find cowardice and low self-esteem behind their ignorance and bravado.
What would happen if an immigrant, visible minority, never mind a Muslim, would have suggested the same fate for the PS and its leadership as Rautiainen did for members of the government and Muslims?
There would be a public outcry.
The fact that these types of characters appear almost constantly from the PS suggests the extent of the social illness that has inflicted Finland.
Their racist and ultra-nationalist ideology grow in PS greenhouses of hatred.
Sad but true.
But there is something positive to mention: Finland’s reaction to racism is an ever-growing a reaction.
Once again you generalise and claim that if 1 PS candidate does something, it means that all PS are similar.
tp1
The number of racists, homophobes and criminals in PS is a long list, that gets longer by the day.
For the record, and ONCE AGAIN, it is my opinion that PS is a mixed bag, people who are more moderate and others that are clearly more extreme. What PS need above all else is a purge of Far Right extremists. However, as this would seriously undermine a good bit of their support base, it ain’t gonna happen any time soon.
Wake up and smell the coffee, tp1. Oh, and stop telling lies about what we think here on MigrantTales. That’s a red card from the moderators, I would have thought!
Really, Perussuomalaiset, really?
I can understand if the party has a person or two who are making this kind of statements (sorry, “jokes”) and they are punished for them, but these keeps to happening constantly now and by different members… previously I have been kind of neutral towards PS and sometimes even defended them, but now this is starting to be ridiculous.
It is a fairly constant stream, isn’t it!
That’s what happens when you recruit your representatives from the bars of Kotka!
ps. some great karaoke bars in Kotka!
Enrique
A lot of crap gets posted on the internet, for all sorts of reasons, including ‘humour’ and also by way of trying to make various points in a debate.
The thing that particularly concerns me is that this was done by somebody seeking election. You would expect a higher level of responsibility from these people. But, I guess he hasn’t been elected yet.
I’m not a betting man, but if I was, I might just have a punt on the fact that he’ll get elected anyway!
Well… Don’t you think it’s good that people can see his opinions before the elections? And if he gets elected, it proves that there is a need for people like him in the council.
tp1
Please explain this…it proves a need for what?
In democracy all people should be represented accordingly. And if Rautiainen gets elected, it means that there are that kind of people in Finland who like to have person like Rautiainen in council. And in democracy that is exactly how it should be: In decision making oraganizations there needs to be representatives in a way that it reflects the citizens.
For example: If 10 % of Finnish people were racists, then we would need 10 % of the representatives to be also racists, so that they can drive the issues that racists want to be driven.
Comical naivety from you again, tp1.
Around 40 per cent of the registered electorate fails to vote in local elections, so by your reasoning a similar proportion of those elected should have no interest in participating in local government.
Just over 18 per cent of the population of Kotka comprises persons under 18 years of age, who are neither eligible to vote nor to stand for election. Therefore local government in Kotka is not democratic. Who democratically represents the views of just under 5 per cent of the population that is under 5 years of age?
There are no homeless councillors in Kotka. There are no bedridden councillors in Kotka. No Kotka councillor is currently serving a custodial sentence for violent crime (nor is it clear how your recommendation would correct this obvious injustice that keeps thugs out of the council chamber).
And your first step to correcting these alleged democratic anomalies is to insist on representation for people who advocate political assassination and religious persecution?
Are you a real person, tp1, or just a troll planted by a social studies department to test public tolerance for nincompoopery in online discussion forums?
Those who don’t use their right to vote, they let others to vote for them. Therefore their opinion doesn’t count. Also underage people can’t vote, so they are out of question too. So, your counter arguments just failed 🙂
Maybe you should educate yourself and learn what democracy means. If there are enough people who want and vote racists in government, then there should be racists in government. That is democracy, deal with it. You can’t just choose some parts of democracy and then deny those parts which YOU don’t like. You need to remember that you are not in a position to say which opinions are good and which are not.
So, get ready to welcome back the Nazis, then!
After all, they were democratically elected.
tp1
How do you know this? Have you asked them? I am aware of no research findings to support the contention that non-voters consider themselves in any way represented by voters. The contents of your navel provide no guide to this, tp1.
That remark exposes your basic mentality again. It also flatly contradicts your assertion that non-voters are choosing to allow others to vote for them, but logic never was your strong suit.
The truth is that election turnout is crucial for the legitimacy of any elected legislature and the executive that it appoints.
This is the reasoning that considered apartheit South Africa a democracy. After all the blacks could not vote, so they were out of the question. Obviously you admire the old South African system. That’s why you have been standing up for racists.
Improbatur on Logic 101, tp1.
Now you are talking about yourself, tp1. Your basic reading list begins with JS Mill. A classic work on government that is conspicuously absent from the Suomen Sisu reading list.
And you are in such a position? Aren’t you doing precisely that right now?